Eager to Be Healthy—Lucida Smith—Energy for the Mind

speaker-0: Hi, my name is Lucinda Smith and I’m eager to be healthy and I hope that you are eager to be healthy too. You’re listening to the Eager to be Healthy podcast with Michael Scott Eager. Learn how to be happy while being healthy and living life to the fullest.

Michael Scott Eger: On this recording we have Lucinda Smith and ⁓ Lucinda is a very good friend of mine. ⁓ We bump into each other in the speaking circuit. Could you imagine? Me, a professional speaker? I’m still trying to grasp with that reality. But anyway, the guy that stutters and has a podcast ⁓ does speak professionally. And one of my friends from that circle is Lucinda. So I’m just going to let her introduce herself and then we’ll start the interview.

speaker-0: Hi, so as I said before, my name is Lucinda Smith. I am a life coach and energy transformationalist, and I work with people who’ve been diagnosed with chronic and terminal disease, and I help them to get in touch with their power, step into it fully, ⁓ utilize it, and change their reality.

Michael Scott Eger: Alright, so normally how we start these programs is I ask you ⁓ about your health journey. Now have you always been healthy?

speaker-0: ⁓ No, no, haven’t always well, I have always been healthy. I have also had issues along the way. let me see, just before my 40th birthday, I, ⁓ it was discovered that I had melanoma and a particular melanoma as opposed to people who have it widespread throughout their body. ⁓ The doctor had found a melanoma on me and referred me to a specialist, a surgeon who had removed the melanoma and of course there was ⁓ the long and short of it had taken place over a couple of weeks time period from knowing what it was and doing something about it. So I had gone to the surgeon and we had set up the date, which was, interestingly enough, the day the surgery was taking place was the day before my 40th birthday. And within that two week time span, one of the things that I did was focus all the negativity, all the negative energy within my body into that one spot. And by the way, I really didn’t want to have the surgery done because they were removing a marking that had been on my body all of my life. And I was not interested in having that go away, but I conceded to the surgery. so we went forward. But as I said, in that two week time period, I spent all of my free time. focusing my negative energy into that area that was going to be removed. Aside from that, I also was diagnosed with scoliosis at about age 11 and that had created some issues for me throughout my youth and probably right up until the latter part of my 30s. Maybe even mid 40s before I started changing that But the biggest the biggest thing that happened for me was I had a bee allergy and in 2008 I was stung by a bee and I was an hour and a half away from the air lift to the emergency room not just an hour and a half away from anything, but in order for airlift to get to me to bring me to the emergency room. It was an hour and a half. So I can go into more detail with you on that if you want to later on because I know you just wanted a brief overview. Where do you want to go from here, Michael?

Michael Scott Eger: The next thing I’d like to know is what type of, well one, I know that you met David Wolf, who’s a big, ⁓ did I pronounce his name right? Yeah. Okay. And I respect David a lot because while I’m not a raw foodie, I think he really gets the essence of the movement down in a way that is interesting to people that are outside of, of the raw, the raw movement. Right. And so I’m wondering, what are your food philosophies and what do you do right now to keep it healthy?

speaker-0: Well, my food philosophies are more is more is less about the food philosophy and more about the philosophy of the body. My body is a temple. It’s an organic machine that has provided itself to bring me throughout this lifetime. So just as I wouldn’t consider putting Sugar in the gas tank of my car just because I like the look of it or the taste of it or the flavor of that I try to also Keep that same kind of mindset towards my body. It’s a machine I’ll be an organic machine But it is nonetheless a machine that I want to keep running well for as long as I can so when I think of my my body as being like a car that kind of takes away all of the emotional baggage that we put on food. Because as I said, just because you like the way something looks or the way it smells, if it’s not good for your car, you’re not necessarily going to utilize that for your car because it’s not beneficial.

Michael Scott Eger: Mm-hmm, that’s the one is a metaphors. I use I use either our bodies our chemistry factories or the machines, but the thing is are the body’s Purpose is to serve you know to serve And the way the body can serve us better is by us caring for the body better with love and So if you bought the brand new

speaker-0: Us. Right.

Michael Scott Eger: Let’s go with a 911, Porsche 911. I don’t know why I picked that vehicle, but that’s the first one that popped in my mind. we’ll run with that. So you buy a Porsche 911. You’re not going to go to Joe’s most gas station, get the cheapest gas and put it in the car and to drive as fast as you can and expect it to last very long. And you’re not going to go to a quickie lube and

speaker-0: Right, right, absolutely.

Michael Scott Eger: watch someone put in the cheapest oil, the cheapest filter and do the quickest oil change possible and expect this engine to last that long. Right. the thing is, many of us love our cars and love our things more than we like us. And we have this huge love of our stuff. And we think we can buy more stuff. But I’m telling you. We’re only given one us. And that is one thing that we have to put a lot of energy in to keep in a working order. So, I mean, where are you coming to us from the food philosophy? Are you vegan? Are you raw? ⁓ Are you Winston Price, which I’m more aligned with? What type of menu do you make for yourself?

speaker-0: Okay, my preference and my body feels best on raw vegan. That is what I have found to be the most efficient for my body at this time. As many of you may imagine, that’s not always conducive to everyday busy life. And depending on where you are, some places you can find a lot of raw vegan restaurants and other places you can’t find anything raw vegan. So, and I travel a lot. So it’s not always as I like it best to be, but normally, in a normal situation, I’m at the very least vegan.

Michael Scott Eger: Of course, I’m not but the point is I get a lot of philosophies and adopted a lot of philosophies into my own personal our life and One of the things I try to do to prevent this thing called leukocytosis. Mm-hmm. Yeah, do you want to explain that or do you me?

speaker-0: No, you go ahead, you’re talking about it, you spill the beans.

Michael Scott Eger: Alright, so this is a way I simplify it and I’m sure that someone smarter on and listening to this recording that’s probably gonna go gray say that’s not right I Understand that but what we’re trying to get to is trying to paint a picture for most people to understand So the way I understand it is when the body’s Your digestive system it produces acid it produces acid but the thing is that that the stomach acid serves the purpose of only softening the food the real digestion happens with enzymes now our body can produce enzymes it produces more when we’re younger and then as we age ⁓ our reserve capacity to produce enzymes gets exhausted. So this is why a lot of people gain weight in their late 20s, early 30s, and 40s because they’re eating a diet that’s exhausting their enzyme potential and they’re doing very little to replenish it. Now when that happens, there’s many ways you can support the health of your your digestive system. You can supplement with enzymes. I recommend plant-based enzymes over animal-based enzymes because ⁓ animal-based enzymes are too close to our own enzymes and we end up producing less ourselves. But plant-based enzymes, those that our body associates that comes with food. They’re different enough that it can make our digestion easier and allow us to produce more of our own enzymes. Another way you can do it is eat more raw food or eat fermented food. Raw and fermented foods have a living component to it. You never see a fresh banana peel on the street because a banana peel is able to digest itself. But you will see You will see McDonald’s fries on the ⁓ you will see dried McDonald’s fries because the, the fri- those McDonald’s fries have been cooked, they have preservatives in them, they, ⁓ then they probably got dehydrated because no one wanted them, and there you have. Not good enough for even nature to decompose McDonald’s fries. And that’s the way with, with us. We want to eat food that gives our body the ability to digest. We want food with the minerals that allows our body to manufacture those enzymes. now leukocytosis happens when after the food goes to the system, it’s still under-digested. The body doesn’t understand food that’s not metabolized. So because this food is not metabolized, it attacks it like a foreign entity and that becomes an autoimmune response. Many people ⁓ talk about the 50 % calorie raw. I just focus on 50 % volume. ⁓ I eat ⁓ half of my food just salad because I realize that’s the easiest and quickest way to get those raw calories into my body and get those results. How did it do? Because I’m not raw or vegan.

speaker-0: You did great. Yes, you Well that doesn’t matter to me. I mean my choice has nothing to do with your choice for yourself.

Michael Scott Eger: Exactly. And you know, I’m sure you realize that some people choose different philosophies because they’re built differently. So do you have an exercise philosophy? You know, if it’s not yoga, it’s not walking.

speaker-0: Mm-hmm. That isn’t or yours is.

Michael Scott Eger: No no ⁓

speaker-0: Well again I like to keep active. It’s just a matter of living. I like taking walks. I enjoy them. So I take walks. I hike. Upon occasion I use a rebounder. Not very often because you have to have really high ceilings or else be willing to do it out.

Michael Scott Eger: Wait a second, I think we should tell people what a rebounder is. It’s a concept that’s even alien to me.

speaker-0: Okay, rebounder is a mini trampoline. I’m sure you’ve all seen them. They’re about three feet in diameter and stand about eight inches off of the ground on little legs. That’s a rebounder. That’s what a rebounder is.

Michael Scott Eger: So you get to play on a mini trampoline and unlock your inner 12 year old.

speaker-0: Not really because the fact of the matter is you get tired really quickly because it takes a lot of energy and the other thing is as I said it’s only about three feet in diameter so you spend a lot of time making sure you’re not jumping into the springs or falling off the rebounder.

Michael Scott Eger: It’s a cold winter out here in Massachusetts this I mean how many times were we in negative double digits?

speaker-0: ⁓ I don’t even know. Way too many for my liking.

Michael Scott Eger: And I work nights too, so it’s like, yeah I’ll work and it’s like cold air just hits me and I turn on the car and my hands grab the shifter and they’re getting numb. it’s not until I drive maybe 20 miles that my car has enough heat to provide me the warmth I want.

speaker-0: Hmm. Yeah. So the other thing about the rebounder is you’re jumping on it. So I’m, I’m a tall woman. I’m almost, well, I’m shy of six feet by a few inches. ⁓ and a rebounder is you add an extra foot to that. So now we’re talking seven feet and then you put a bounce on it. So like I said, you have to either have really high ceilings, which I had at my last house, I had 11 foot ceilings in the downstairs so that was great but I don’t have that anymore in this winter so I actually gave my rebounder away.

Michael Scott Eger: You gave your mini trampoline away. I… Your inner 12 year old you.

speaker-0: I did, I did. Well, probably get another one if that’s what I’m inclined to do. So, but like I said, you have to have the ceilings or the weather for it, one or the other. And at this point in time, we don’t have either. So it’s a consideration. Yep.

Michael Scott Eger: ⁓ The studio has been shining light in me so we’re doing lowing, ⁓ lowing down the shade so I can actually see. ⁓ spring’s coming. So this makes me happy.

speaker-0: Yes, yes, it’s pretty awesome.

Michael Scott Eger: So, now you know me, I’m a skeptic when it comes to new technology, new techniques and new ways of thinking. But as you also know, when I adopt something, I become a true believer. And you’ve seen some of the speeches I’ve done about basically how fears can limit you, right?

speaker-0: absolutely. Yeah, without a doubt.

Michael Scott Eger: And so, I’m not sure if I understand what you do or the motivations what you do and so I’m coming to you as a skeptic. Just to set the rules, I am mechanical and I do think about how things work. So, in order for me to fully understand and I know you’re more of a feeling person, so that’s… That’s a tool I want you to use to translate it in terms that are different than what you normally use but something that I can relate to.

speaker-0: Okay, well first of all, let me, if this is alright with you, I’d like to continue the story about going into anaphylactic shock.

Michael Scott Eger: ⁓ is that the B story? Yes. From the beginning.

speaker-0: Okay, very good. So I’ve been stung by a bee. I’m an hour and a half from the airlift to the emergency room. And I can feel at that point in time, it was in the barn, in my goat barn, and a very quick short walk to the house. As I was walking, I was already… going into shock and having trouble breathing. My heart rate was accelerated. My blood pressure was through the roof and I was having trouble breathing. Got into the house and I sat down and said to my husband, you need to ⁓ call, call the neighbors, see if anybody has an EpiPen. Nobody had an EpiPen. What has happened before when I’ve gone into anaphylactic shock is I’ve passed out. And I could feel that coming on the dizziness, all of that. And at that point in time, I thought for a quick, you know, very quickly, I can’t even tell you how quickly it was. thought about ⁓ not being able to see my children before I left, not being able to talk to my mother, you know, any of those things. And I said, wait a minute, I’m not ready for this. I am not. ready to die. I’m not having this, which is one of my famous phrases friends will tell you about. I’m not having this. I am not going to stand for this. This is not happening. And so I focused on my breathing. I sat there nice and calm, focused on my breathing, taking nice deep breaths in that were difficult and hard. don’t mean for one second, as I tell you this, that any of these things were easy. It was not easy and I calmed, calmed my heart down. just, envisioned if you will, and felt myself gaining control over my heartbeat, lowering my blood pressure and calming myself down the whole time. My husband was there with me and, ⁓ every now and again, I would say to him, how do I look? Do I look better? Is my face red? I feel like I have hives all over, you know, all of this stuff. And he just sat there with me and reassured me and reassured me and, and continued along the journey with me. And after about a half hour, I would say, because you kind of lose sense of time at a particular place like, like that, that I was in emotionally. But it was about a half hour when I finally felt as though I was okay. The emergency had passed the time of vital, intense focus. I was able to let that go and I felt like I could get up and walk around. So I got up and went into the bathroom so I could put some cold water on my face and imagine my dismay. this whole time I’m saying to my husband, I look okay? You know, do I have hives all over, am I fine? And he was saying, ⁓ no, no, no, you’re good, you look good, your color’s good, everything’s okay, even though I felt like my face was on fire. And I went into the bathroom, my face is the color of burgundy wine and blown up with hives.

Michael Scott Eger: I guess the the the the anaphylactic reaction to allergens is something not everyone relates to. So I’m not allergic to peanuts but I know people who are. I’m not allergic to bee stings but Lucinda is.

speaker-0: Yeah, obviously you know people who are because you and I are talking.

Michael Scott Eger: Well, I also know that the reaction is a rapid autoimmune reaction. ⁓ So it’s a rapid autoimmune reaction and it causes a lot of illogical things for our intellect to understand that our body does. And one of it is it just swells up to the point that it makes breathing almost impossible. Because if it’s doing, if it’s making your face look like this big red balloon what do you think that’s doing to your airways? and if you can’t breathe how long do think you can live? and that’s the danger of these these severe allergy reactions and they have products called EpiPens and they reduce it and they buy you time so you can get you know proper medical care but you know there’s only so much those pens can do so I’m actually looking for a transition so, unless, give us one Lucinda.

speaker-0: Okay, so here’s my big thing that I would say to you and to our audience here is that thoughts create a chemistry within your body. Every thought creates a chemistry. There are several different ways that I could explain that. One of them is I would say, think of something or actually don’t because I prefer you didn’t, but imagine you were thinking about something that really really angered you. And what would happen? Your blood pressure would go up. Your body would become tense. Your muscles would become rigid. And then imagine what it feels like when you’re embarrassed, extremely embarrassed. ⁓ You’ve been, you’re on a dance floor with a whole bunch of people watching you and you fall. And nobody else is there, but you have an audience of all these people. Most people react embarrassed for such a thing to happen. And when you think about that, being that embarrassed, when you bring yourself back, you’re almost reliving it. And what would happen then is that your face would become red. Your breath would cease to, if you were breathing fully within your body, your breath would stop short midway to your chest. you have all of these physical reactions to thoughts, just thoughts. So that’s the basics of where I start with somebody that every thought creates a chemistry in your body. Now imagine yourself walking around every day, all day thinking that you’re not good enough. that you’re not smart enough, you’re not deserving, you’re unlovable. And those thoughts are creating chemistries within your body. so I just want you to draw from your own memory of a person who has these feelings about themselves. And I will guarantee you that that person does not have a lot of support around them in the terms of other people caring for them or caring with them through their lives. They are also most likely to be sick very often and have a lot of issues, perhaps be accident prone, any number of things. These things show up. And with that same memory of people that you know or people that you’ve heard about who really like themselves, who enjoy life, who believe that good things are always happening to them and look at them. Are they people who get sick all of the time? Are they people who spend a lot of time alone feeling as though they’re not cared for? That’s a question for you, Michael.

Michael Scott Eger: All I could think about is as you were saying something that ⁓ I tried to teach. The body wants to be in line with what the mind is thinking. So when you think of thought there are emotions involved in that thought. it works in reverse too. There are emotions like simple body postures that are associated with being confident. Right.

speaker-0: ⁓ yeah, absolutely.

Michael Scott Eger: You tell me sometimes the easiest way to change your mind is just changing your postures and then your mind believes what your body’s doing because It makes sense if I’m standing in a confident way my mind thinks confidence thoughts right and So what was your question?

speaker-0: I was just saying, all right, so that’s the question to you. Can you think of people who fit those descriptions?

Michael Scott Eger: we can just think about our own life. Just because you think it doesn’t change it, but it changes perceptions. And a lot of the times the perceptions are all you need to change to create a new reality. So for me, in ⁓ discovering that I wanted to help other people, I hit rock bottom. When I realized what I doing was making me unhappy. I wanted to do something different. I just didn’t know what it was. And then when I operated while planned and that didn’t give me good results. But when I realized I wanted to help people and I was worthy and deserving of the ability to help people and I had faith that I had the gifts and the knowledge and the love in my life for other people that I was qualified a lot of things started to change and I went from spending money willy-nilly to to focusing on a plan I found that what money I had left lasted longer because I was operating with purpose I had pride because I truly believed that what I wanted to do was go and help people and more important leave a better mark on his life. But if I start to focus on not making rent or buying groceries with a credit card I would get nervous, I would stop making efforts to ⁓ grow my life and would live like a hermit. I’m not sure if that’s what you want but the point is when your thoughts are big and they’re powerful You want to become big and powerful and you and your body just jumps into that reality And it’s not like it chooses you it has no other choice. It wants to be congruent with what your mind thinks

speaker-0: Right, wow, and that’s perfect and works really well for a lot of people. The drawback of that is, for some, is that they have ingrained beliefs. They have bought other people’s realities from childhood, and they have bought into somebody else’s story. Who is it? I’m trying to think of who it is. I can’t remember the name of the person. But anyways, I actually think it’s Brian Tracy. Neither here nor there.

Michael Scott Eger: Ryan Tracy is a great sales person, he wrote a lot of stuff, but I’m not sure if he created as much original content as like a Zig Ziglar. But, do I ever talk to you about Landmark Education? Alright, so Landmark Education teaches you a lot of things. once you’re required in order to attend classes,

speaker-0: No.

Michael Scott Eger: you’re required to attend the Landmark Forum. This is the foundation of Landmark Education. And one of the first exercises they have you do is after demonstrating the idea of what works and doesn’t work is better than what’s right and wrong. Because those require judgments. And if it works, it works. If it doesn’t work, you do something else. Simple. But it’s all about the power of language and the power language has on communicating what we want in our life and more importantly how it magnifies and transforms what happens into the story we tell ourselves. Besides that B incident, think of something bad happened. Don’t tell me the story but just describe one bad incident.

speaker-0: for myself.

Michael Scott Eger: It could be someone else. It could be an unnamed ⁓ imaginary entity.

speaker-0: Alright.

Michael Scott Eger: So can you think of something? Alright, go ahead.

speaker-0: ⁓ you want to hear this story now?

Michael Scott Eger: What I want to hear is a highlight of it, okay? So it could be anything from someone losing a job to getting hit by a drunk driver to something like that.

speaker-0: All right, somebody who was on the upside of stage three cancer and two years later is diagnosed with stage four and given an expiration date.

Michael Scott Eger: Alright, and what are they telling themselves?

speaker-0: What are they telling themselves? Well, there is no, in my experience, each client that I’ve worked with has something different going on. It’s not a blanket statement.

Michael Scott Eger: Alright, we’re not talking about individuals, we’re actually building a composite. I mean, I can talk about my own life, but everyone’s heard about my car crash and you know, basically hitting rock bottom and somehow surviving. So we’re just talking hypotheticals here.

speaker-0: Okay. So overall, I would say in a situation like that, more often than not, what that person may be saying to themselves is that they are powerless, that they have no control in their life, that they are a victim of circumstances.

Michael Scott Eger: Okay, and on a ⁓ on an observation level, that makes a lot of sense because the doctors are telling them what they can do. They’re telling them how long they have to live. So really what they have is ⁓ cells in the body replicating in a rapid way that’s interfering with the healthy cells. And that’s basically what happens. The story the doctor says about that they’re going to die, that’s just a, that hasn’t happened yet. That’s just their opinion of how things happen, how things are occurring in their head. They’re still alive at that moment. They just have those misbehaving cells in the body and that’s basically what cancer is. So the choice is what do you have to really do is first Take away the emotional words, the words fear, the words gear, not right. Why me? Okay? I lived a good life. This should be happening to someone else. All that story distracts your mental energy. And your mental energy should be focused on creating a new possibility that you are well. Is that sort of what you do?

speaker-0: That is part of it.

Michael Scott Eger: I know you come from the you come at the unpartial outside you know observer and so how does that help them get to that place of I guess having more of the positive energy in so they can focus on getting well

speaker-0: Well, as I said, that’s only part of what I do. first thing, you’re right, one of the first things we do, but more often than not, if people are coming to me, they’re already at the place of understanding that there is another possibility. And I say, use almost exactly those same words as you, that that’s somebody’s opinion.

Michael Scott Eger: They’re not my words. I just learned them at Landmark. But yeah, I just want the reason I mentioned Landmark so much is it what’s been it’s been so Transformable in my life and allowed me to connect with so many great people I want everyone that listens to the show to at least consider Taking the forum it it’s not for everyone, but I’ll tell you when you go through the whole thing you’ll understand why I talk so highly of it.

speaker-0: I’m reflecting back, I knew somebody many, years ago, oh 15, that did actually, they did go to Landmark and I went to one or two of the meetings.

Michael Scott Eger: You’re from Connecticut, right? Yep. Okay. So was this a Mariton or a Manhattan?

speaker-0: It was in Connecticut, but I don’t believe it was in Meriden.

Michael Scott Eger: Okay, well it was either the intro to the landmark or was the seminar.

speaker-0: I don’t recall. 15 years ago. Anyways, I forget where we were.

Michael Scott Eger: Okay. I think what we were talking about was I understand the positive and negative energy and how that free thought but I’m trying to figure out the whole mechanism of the tool house you use to help people because I’m a guy of science so I have to explain those things in science ways for me to buy into them

speaker-0: And I am not a person of science, although I do like to have an understanding of something. ⁓ I don’t need it necessarily like that. But there are plenty of people in science who have done just exactly that. ⁓ Greg Braden, for one, as has Masuro Imoto, who recently passed this past year. They have shown cells shown them reacting to Masurimoto. Are you familiar with him? Okay. He and what’s the name of his book? Something in the water.

Michael Scott Eger: Well there could be a lot of things in the water.

speaker-0: Masuro Imoto took molecules, water molecules, and he taped words on the jars of these waters and he froze the molecules. And you can see a tremendous difference in the water with the different words. So love, those molecules are fantastical looking beautiful. They’re like snowflake prisms. Absolutely gorgeous. And then he took other water and he said not nice words, hate and any number of things that you can think about. And he showed the difference in the molecules and the molecules, they themselves were poisoned and had all kinds of things going on. Then he took water and did befores and afters and the polluted water was as you would imagine the molecules they were unattractive to say the least I don’t know how else to describe them messages in the water as Missouri Mottos book and if you get a chance or you can go online and find pictures it’s phenomenal so there’s his work then there’s Bruce Lipton’s work and he started out doing stem cell research back in the 60s and his supervisor, if you will, his mentor had told him, he said, if anything goes on with these cells, if there’s any difference in them, don’t look to the cells themselves, look to the environment. And so with the work that Bruce Lipton did, he found that he could take genetically identical cells and put them in different environments and they would become something else. So for instance, when he changed the environment, went from he had two, three different results. He would get bone or fat or muscle. and I hope I have that right. But the whole point of that was that by changing the environment, he was changing what something was being. So I take that and I take that understanding and I move that to a person and imagine that we three, we have triplets or three children. and we put them in different environments. We put them in a scary environment, in a loving environment, and in an environment where they’re always running. So you’re going to get three different results simply by changing the environment. And another thing that he found was that if you had children who were adopted into families, The children that were adopted in, regardless of their genetics, had the same potential for disease, such as cancer or anything else, as the children who were born into the family, regardless of whether or not the genetics was there. So that’s another perfect example of changing the environment and changing the physical outcome of the person.

Michael Scott Eger: Well, we are nearing the end of our time, so we have approximately ⁓ five more minutes before closing. How would you like to spend that time?

speaker-0: Well, I would like to spend it just impressing upon people the importance of the things that you’re thinking. The fact that and I do say fact that you have a choice in the thoughts that you are having, the emotions that you’re exhibiting. It’s not easy work, but you have a choice. You have the ability to change it. You have the ability to have different outcomes. again, as we were talking about before, somebody else and that’s that’s who a doctor is. And I’m not by any means minimizing what they’re capable of or aren’t. Doctors are great and they have a place, but most of them will tell you. that if you want to get better, have to be on board with that. You can’t be walking around saying, this will never work for me. I’m not lucky enough. It’s not in the cards for me or anything like that. You have to be the one who’s on board and you have to surround yourself with people who are going to be on board with you. And I just want to go back to that story I was telling about the anaphylactic shock. If my husband had not been supportive of me, had he not been there and been able to say, everything’s okay, you look good, you’re doing great. If he had sat there and said, ⁓ my God, your face is so red, you have hives all over. I strongly believe I would have had a different outcome. So you need to surround yourself with people who are going to be able to support you and to you to get to a place where you need to be. And if the people you’re around now aren’t there, then maybe you should consider having other people around you.

Michael Scott Eger: So your husband told you what you needed to hear to stay calm and you’re grateful for that, And then other thing you would like to leave with us is that it’s easier to get better when you believe that you have the power to get better.

speaker-0: Absolutely. Well, you could say that, but I would just say that I believe that anybody has the power to do that.

Michael Scott Eger: Our time is nearly up. So you work with people, right? I do. Do you have any products that you offer besides just working one on one with you?

speaker-0: I do occasionally do some workshops. I can be found speaking at various places. The best way to find out about me and whether or not it’s something anybody has an interest in is going to my website, which is www.lucindasmith.com. So again, www.lucinda, L-U-C-I-N-D-A ⁓ Smith. SMITH.com.

Michael Scott Eger: Alright, and with great gratitude and love, thank you for being on the show.

speaker-0: Thank you so much for the invitation, Michael. Thank you for listening to the Eager to be Healthy podcast. If you liked our show, please give us five stars on iTunes and sign up to become a healthy bee at eager to be healthy.com slash podcast.